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Reiner Dohrs

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  • Name Reiner Dohrs 
    Birth 1659  Krefeld, , Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Death 27 Sep 1745  Abington, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I503  Parlett-Stancliff
    Last Modified 3 Jul 2023 

    Father Matteis Peters Dohrs,   b. Bef 12 Sep 1614, Kaldenkirchen, Viersen District, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1664, Jülich, Düren District, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 49 years) 
    Mother Nees Op Den Graeff,   b. 1 Sep 1614, Kaldenkirchen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 20 Aug 1691, Krefeld, Krefeld, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 76 years) 
    Marriage 1635  Kaldenkirchen, , , Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F595  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • [[Category: Immigrants to Pennsylvania from Germany]]

      == Biography ==
      In the summer of 1683, he left [[wikipedia:Rotterdam|Rotterdam]], immigrating to the [[wikipedia:Province_of_Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania Province]] aboard the ship [[Space:CONCORD_the_GERMAN_MAYFLOWER| Concord]]. , <ref name="Prough">"Ship Passengers Mentioned in Merion MM Minutes; Chester County, PA," (http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/chester/immig/merionpassengers.txt: Accessed 29 January 2015), Yvonne Prough. U.S. Genealogical Web Archives.</ref>, The ship arrived in Philadelphia in October, 1683.

      ''Germantown Settlement'' <BR>Reiner was one of the original 13 families which settled Germantown, comprising 33 who came to America on the Concord. <ref name="Prough"/> '''Reiner Theissen''' was one of the original 13 Krefield emigrants. <ref>[[#Niepoth|Niepoth]]: Page 88</ref>


      ===Birth===
      : Date: 1659


      <blockquote>It's also common in cases of earlier ancestors that the spelling of a name was not standardized and that the person him or herself would have used more than one. In those cases, we recommend choosing the spelling that is most recognizable to modern descendants ... [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Name_Fields#When_conventions_changed_during_a_person.27s_lifetime]
      </blockquote>Applying this Wikitree guideline suggests a preferred LNAB spelling of '''Doors'''.

      <blockquote>(1) In large portions of the Lower Rhineland, especially in the Mennonite areas, it was customary to give to te eldest children their grandparents' first names. Thus certain first names became the princial names of these families. With the method of the principal name custom we have the possibility of determining relationships when church records and other sources are lacking, relationships which would have to remain unknown were it not for our knowledge of this custom.(2)Last names formed from first names at the end of the 17th century are not truly family names in the modern sense, but rather nothing more than the first name of the father placed second. ... (3) If the surname is not always important, the form and spelling of the names is even less important." <ref>[[#Niepoth|Niepoth]]: Page 88</ref> </blockquote>
      Wikitree has 3 fields for tracking surnames: [[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Name_Fields]]* Last Name at Birth (LNAB)- LNAB should be sourced by whatever birth record can be surfaced.* Current Last Name - Current Last Name should be sourced by gravestone photo or death record(s), although sometimes these names are in error.* Other Last Name(s) - Other Last Name(s) should be sourced by whatever spellings are found in various [[Wikipedia:Primary_source|primary sources]].

      <blockquote>... in the Mennonite congregation at Goch, on 25 May 1670, therefore at the age of about twenty years, was baptized: ''Leentien Doormans, spinster, daughter of Thies Doormans.'' At the same time there was a young man in Goch who was baptized there, 9 July 1673: ''Theunis Koenders, bachelor, son of Koendert Lensen.'' Now is it any wonder that on the first Sunday after Trinity (May 31) Anno Domini 1677 in Krefeld at the Reformed Church, the bans of marriage were published for ''Tonis Kuners of Gladbach'' and ''Lentgen Mattheisen (spinster) of Kaldenkirchen.'' She is indeed the daughter, baptized in Goch, of Theis Doors or Doormand, who is named ''Lijnijen Teisen'' in the Quaker wedding document. Then also '''Reiner Theissen''' belongs to this family of brothers and sisters and thus is among the children of ''Theis and Agnes Doors''. He also emigrated in 1683." <ref>[[#Niepoth|Niepoth]]: Page 97</ref> </blockquote>
      "Of the thirteen emigrants, six bore genuine family names, namely the three op den Graeffs, Lucken, Strepers and Kürlis." Theissen was not one of these six men which implies that the surname of '''Theissen''' is not a family name. <ref>[[#Niepoth|Niepoth]]: Page 89</ref> <BR>
      On the memorial of the Concord landing in 6 October 1683, his name is etched in stone as '''Reinert Tisen'''. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Inscription_Pistorius_Monument.JPG] <BR>
      In 1696, Reiner was cited in Court for having an ''insufficient'' fence. He was mentioned as '''Reinert Tyson'''. <ref>Source: [[#B02]] Pennypacker, p. 158. </ref> <BR>In 1701, he served on a jury as '''Reiner Tyson'''. <ref>Source: [[#B02]] Pennypacker, p. 158. </ref> <BR>
      Based on these sources, his LNAB was any one of a variant spelling of ''Doors''. Since there are many siblings, his LNAB can remain as '''Dohrs''' until some project harmonizes the variant spellings to one standard form.
      Throughout his life, his first name was spelled variants of ''Reiner'' and his surname was variants of ''Theissen''. All these variants should be included in the Other Last Name(s) field.

      thEIssen is a dutch variant of Dennis (Theis) son of (sen).

      <blockquote>... when our ancestor, Reynier Tyson, came to Pennsylvania he spelled his name, or it was spelled for him, in a number of ways, i. e., Thysen, Tisen, Tissen, Tyssen, Teissen and Tyson, the latter being the spelling to his will and the one adopted by his children; ... <ref>[[#Tyson|Tyson]]: Page 5. </ref> </blockquote>

      His current last name should reflect what is carved on his tombstone, if ever located; this profile uses '''Theissen''' until that is determined. <BR>

      ===Immigration===
      Immigrated to Province of Pennsylvania from Krefeld via England. <BR>July - October 1683 - < [[Space:CONCORD_the_GERMAN_MAYFLOWER|Concord]]

      ===Marriage===''... believed to have been unmarried, when he settled with the others in Germantown.'' <ref name="Jordan"> [[#Jordan|Jordan]]: Vol. 1, p. 691.</ref> ''Reynier Tyson's wife's Christian name was Mary, but her surname and when and where they were married is unknown.''<ref name="Jordan"> [[#Jordan|Jordan]]: Vol. 1, p. 691.</ref>

      ===Census Records===
      Reiner passed away before the first US Census took place in 1790.

      ===Death===''The will of Reynier Tyson, dated December 21, 1741, proved October 26,1745, registered in Philadelphia county Wills (Will Book H, p. 63)'' <ref name="Jordan"> [[#Jordan|Jordan]]: Vol. 1, p. 691.</ref>


      ==Sources==# <span id='Jordan'></span>Jordan, John W., ed. ''[[Space:OCLC-11953941|Colonial Families of Philadelphia]]'' (Lewis Publishing Company, 1911.) # <span id='Niepoth'></span>Niepoth, Wilhelm. ''[[Space:The_Ancestry_of_the_Thirteen_Krefeld_Emigrants_of_1683|The Ancestry of the Thirteen Krefeld Emigrants of 1683]]'' # <span id='Tyson'></span>Tyson, Samuel Traquair. ''[[Space:A_Contribution_to_the_History_and_Genealogy_of_the_Tyson_and_Fitzwater_Families|A Contribution to the History and Genealogy of the Tyson and Fitzwater Families.]]'' (Los Angeles, Cal., S. T. Tyson, 1922).

      ===Books===# [<span id='B01'>B01</span>] Conrad, H. C. (1958). Thones Kunders and his children: Also a list of the descendants for six generations of his youngest son Henry Cunreds, of Whitpain, 1683-1891. Salt Lake City, Utah: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah. [http://www.worldcat.org/title/thones-kunders-and-his-children-also-a-list-of-the-descendants-for-six-generations-of-his-youngest-son-henry-cunreds-of-whitpain-1683-1891/oclc/865972427&referer=brief_results], [https://archive.org/details/16831891thonesku00conr] # [<span id='B02'>B02</span>] Pennypacker, S. W. (1899). The settlement of Germantown, Pennsylvania, and the beginning of German immigration to North America. Lancaster, Pa: The Society. [https://archive.org/details/settlementofgerm00penn] [http://www.worldcat.org/title/settlement-of-germantown-pennsylvania-and-the-beginning-of-german-immigration-to-north-america/oclc/609195377]# [<span id='B03'>B03</span>] Anonymous. (1875) The Friend, Volume 48. Harvard University. p. 67 [http://books.google.com/books?id=rD8rAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA48&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=true]
      * Source: <span id='S199'>S199</span> Abbreviation: Ancestry.com Title: Dominique Z. Delphine, <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i> Subsequent Source Citation Format: Dominique Z. Delphine, <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i> BIBL Dominique Z. Delphine. <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i>. TMPLT TID 0 FIELD Name: Footnote VALUE Dominique Z. Delphine, <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i> FIELD Name: ShortFootnote VALUE Dominique Z. Delphine, <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i> FIELD Name: Bibliography VALUE Dominique Z. Delphine. <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i>. TMPLT FIELD Name: Page
      * Source: <span id='S86'>S86</span> Abbreviation: Ancestry Family Trees Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Repository: [[#R1]] Paranthetical: Y Page: Ancestry Family Tree Quality or Certainty of Data: 3 Data: Text: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/69087466/family
      * Repository: <span id='R1'>R1</span> Name: Ancestry.com

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      ===GEDCOM===* WikiTree profile Doors-24 created through the import of Lupton file.ged on Jul 7, 2011 by [[Ostermyer-1 | Kim Ostermyer]].
      * WikiTree profile Tyson-173 created through the import of Eric M Weaver's family tree new.ged on Nov 9, 2011 by [[Weaver-1824 | Eric Weaver]]. See the [https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Tyson-173 Changes page] for the details of edits by Eric and others.
      * Wikitree profile Tyson-673 was created by [[Saunders-3398 | Pat Saunders]] through the import of Ancestry_William_Saunders.ged on Oct 3, 2014.

      === Record ID Number ===
      : Record ID Number: MH:I410


      ==Other Resources==# [<span id='OR01'>OR01</span>] ''' Dates''':''Two things to be aware of - Quakers didn't use the names of months, just the numbers (7 8m 1742 for example), and until 1752, "8m" would have been October, not August, since the year started in March (1m). ''[http://www.genealogytoday.com/columns/recipes/tip14.html]

      ===Family Trees===[http://fabpedigree.com/s099/f078899.htm Elizabeth Tyson, daughter of Reiner]

      ==Acknowledgments==Thank you to [[Phillips-9876|Brian Ward]] for [https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Dohrs-3 creating] Dohrs-3 on 07 November 2014. Click the Changes tab for the details on contributions by Brian and others.
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